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Interview with Shmuel Zaidel about Coordinative Reflexology
Interviewer: Kathryn Beach, Canada

Kathryn
I have been writing articles for a few months about natural childbirth, herbs used during pregnancy, non-invasive techniques for easing pregnancy and childbirth such as massage, reflexology, and accupressure, and the use of different positions for supporting childbirth and easing the pain.
The reason is that I am always suspect when I read things such as "reflexology is always safe for pregnant women". I then did deeper, to be sure that this is true. Even with something as seemingly harmless as massage or reflexology, I always caution people to consult with their physician, midwife or experienced professional. I found Shmulik's website and article while searching for cautions. I have not found any other source of such information (yet).

Shmulik
The concept, and name, “Human Ecology” came down to me form the three persons that established the institute in 1985. Among them was my Reflexology teacher, Zacharia Kahalani.
When I agreed to take on the position of head of reflexology teaching, I felt attuned to the name, believing it to be appropriate. This is still my belief, and it will continue to be so.
The name “Human Ecology” implicates an internal body-soul ecology, and the management of the somatic individuum in the external space. According to my belief, the external space in which we are positioned is a mirror image of the inner body-soul ecology, i.e., we perceive the exterior by the state of our inner self; we affect the way in which we perceive the exterior from within. In the same time the exterior affects our inner self.
According to this approach we must position ourselves in many different vintage points so that we may view our personal complex differently, each time anew. This way the whole is perceived and understood each time anew.

Question
Shmulik, if I understand your concept of human ecology, this seems similar to what Native Americans believe, that we are all synergistically part of a whole that is greater than the sum of the parts; that all aspects are inseparable: body, mind, spirit, family, community, environment, and so forth. Is this correct?
Answer
Anything that we perform and which combines different elements becomes synergistically a whole greater than its parts. That is true for the following examples, as well as to other phenomena:

  • Two tones simultaneously produced create a musical accord

  • Individual letters combine to create a word

  • Two numbers create a sum larger than the individual values

  • Colors mixed create a new color

  • Reflexological stimuli combined create a resonance of a therapeutic accord

The “Law of combinations” expresses the natural way of human thought, but its application necessitates not only coordinative thinking, but also an ability to act in a coordinative fashion.

Question
Your background in movement and dance involved physical coordination and attentiveness as well as a mental and spiritual focus. Can you tell me how this and Human Ecology developed into your concept of Coordinative Reflexology?
Answer
For many years I have been involved in the project of “movement notation”, a notation by which body movement can be analyzed, documented or choreographed. This was the form of dance I was engaged in for 25 years.
Using this notation I have analyzed, documented and taught the subject of animal movement in the university of Tel-Aviv.
In order to be able to perform the dances that were choreographed by my teacher, Prof. Noa Eshkol, a very high level of coordination was required The principle on which that movement form was based is simultaneous movement, i.e. the use of traces that are created in the space by the body’s movement. These traces are mysterious and undefined. That means that when we perform the movement we perform exactly that which we do not understand. Usually dancers and choreographers dance emotions; the dancers express their emotions, or the emotions of the choreographer. For me, approaching the sphere of emotions in a pure way, without any prior prejudices or directive emotions is a pure act that symbolizes pure “Human-Ecology”. In this way the movements create a new and unknown mass of emotions.
When I decided to be involved in Reflexology in 1980 it was clear to me that I will bring into the subject the perspective of my own share of past experiences and knowledge.
The advances in the method of “Coordinative Reflexology” were made in relation to the course of my activities and with the gist of the form of dance I was involved with. A simultaneous action in the reflection points in the feet synergistically creates an “Accord Resonance”.
In the exact same way that I knew how to perform a dance, a thing that I do not understand, Reflexology, being a thing not apprehended, brings us to perform a thing which is undefined in the scientific world, a thing that is beyond our faculties of reason.

Question
In your article about reflexology during menses and pregnancy, you stated that we normally hold back the body's self healing processes because we are unable to let go of problems we may have been holding on to for a long time. Can you give an example of this holding on to problems, and why pregnancy is a time when a woman can overcome this?
Answer
A “blockage” of natural healing processes means that a person is unable to transcend his/hers problems and ails, and in such a situation the person and the sickness are one. In certain situations it is indeed difficult for the body to become free of its problems.
Chronic diseases are a clear example of the phenomena related to the subjugation of the body by its diseases. Another example is the difficulties confronted when trying to stop smoking.
The dynamics of the drainage of waste materials from the body during the period, and the intensive physiological and mental changes that take place during pregnancy make times like these potent for helping the body discard of the “known” and the “familiar”, i.e., the chronic diseases. The reflexologist should of course be knowledgeable about the nature of pregnancy, and of the exact stage of pregnancy the patient is in. He/she should also be aware of the essence of the therapeutic techniques that will transform his/hers intentions into actions and effects.

Question
Does the cleansing that is possible during pregnancy, using reflexology, only apply to issues connected to pregnancy, or can it be more than that?

Answer
There is no doubt that therapy given during a period or during pregnancy, being especially related to the body’s purification, is especially attuned to many chronic diseases. Constipation, asthma, and hyperactivity or hypoactivity of the thyroid gland can be given a partial solution by such a treatment. In fact, it is possible to help women with the entirety of the spectrum of chronic problems. It requires, of course, an understanding of the nature of each disease and the know-how for treating in a way that will not harm the natural course of the pregnancy.

Question
Can you give an example of the differences between how you would use reflexology for lower back pain on a woman who is not pregnant, and one who is? How does treatment differ depending on what trimester she is in?
Answer
The spine, in a structure that is not without similarity to a tree’s trunk, is connected to the peripheral limbs connected to the spinal cord through the peripheral nerves. This anatomy results in two different types of back pains:

  • Back pains that result directly from the condition of the spinal vertebrae projecting to the peripheral limbs.

  • Back pains resulting from the condition of the peripheral limbs projecting to a segment of the vertebrae to which they are neurologically connected.

Treating lower back pains under normal circumstances
Because of the connection of the spine to the peripheral limbs the treatment will be performed simultaneously, one hand treating the reflection area of the vertebrae sending distress signals, the other hand working on the reflection areas of the according peripheral limbs.
A combination of manipulative techniques will be used in the ankle joint skeletal structure. Note – The manipulative action performed on the feet’s skeletal structure constitutes the “deepest” therapy. The stimuli sent to the body result from the movement of the feet preformed simultaneously with the movement of the feet’s bones over the therapist’s fingers.
The manipulative action is not recommended during pregnancy.
Treating lower back pains in pregnant patients
The pregnancy itself affects lower back pains. During pregnancy a pressure is created on peripheral organs. This pressure changes during the first, second and third trimesters.
Common attractive reflection points would be the following: the urinary bladder, the loin muscles, the sigmoid colon and the small intestine valve. The points project distress onto the lower stomach during pregnancy. The application of pressure would be simultaneous, working both on the reflection area of the lower back and on one, several or all of the mentioned points.
With regard to pregnant women, my students go through an embryology course that is given by instructors coming from conventional medicine. This course presents the ongoing processes of pregnancy, week by week, presenting the various changes the woman’s body goes through, and the various forms of relexological therapy that should be applied throughout the pregnancy period. This course also reveals the much discussed “relations” between conventional medicine and Chinese medicine.
Knowledge not only prevents the situation where there is a lack of awareness to consequences of actions taken in the treatment, but also gives the therapist a confidence in his/hers practice.

Question
Dr. Robert St. John developed what he called the Metamorphic Technique; have you heard of this, and, if so, do you see any similarities between it and Coordinative Reflexology?
Answer
As I perceive it, I do not make use of the metamorphic method. My approach is much closer to musical interpretation – both the where and how of the pressure application are crucial: rhythm, directions, pressure levels andcombinations are all factors effecting the sensitivity, excitement and musical resonance that are created in the patient’s body and should all be taken into account.
I do not think it right to “return” the patient to a stage where he/she is a fetus. I concentrate on the now, as it is related to the past and to the future. Coordinative Reflexology has a wide array of techniques, including a soft caressing technique, not dissimilar to the metamorphic method. However, this technique is only a single tool out of a larger array.

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